kl. Thank you so much for your investigative journalism. /R, I got kidnapped by the yeti/menk I bearly escaped alive it was really pissed-off. Do hikers regularly sit around campfire in bare/stocking feet---I feel so !) Hewas one among severalthat participated in thisclean up. Yes, this would be a problem indeed, but we must be careful here. Wind speeds regularly exceeded 20 m . Yes, skiing in the footstep felt necessary. You should definitely write a novel because of all this, I think that it would be inspirational to people that take so many angles at looking into mysteries and conspiracies. y hypothesistries to explain most of the strange phenomena that surround the mystery of the Dyatlov pass - such as why the tent was cut from the inside, why they left the tent and couldnt get back, and why they fled ill-dressed - many without shoes. This was caused by intravital acute toxic pulmonary edema, post-mortem freezing of the corpsesas well as excessive pressure in the abdominal cavity - this due to the decomposition of corpses and accumulation of putrefactive gases. Climbing Mount Ararat in Turkey and taking part ofthe story of Noah and his ark have also inspired me to understand the origins of such religious accounts. Thank you for sharing your experience with all of us. In this case we are not even talking about the ice sheet over Antarctica, where such winds are normally considered the strongest. A remark in the diary also clarifies that snow was whirling in the air but not coming from any clouds since the sky was blue. This area in France corresponds almost exactly to the orography of the "Kholat", where lee waves are regularly seen and are the basis for the weather on 1/2 February 1959. Hufvudstadsbladet-Svensk expedition i Djatlovs fotspr exakt 60 r efter desnatten (13 oktober 2019). This year Andrei Kuryakov, for example, explained the problem why the criminal case dates to February 6 which is, as you say, well before they started their search. What was your contingency plan in the case of a katabatic wind? The others eventually managed to getthe two bivouacs ready for use. Vetenskapsradion Historia - (direktrapport frn Dyatlovpasset), 5 februari 2019. My opinion, in the meantime, favors meteorological reasons behind the groups death. But due to the dramatic situation, they must have had to decide in an instance. Thanks. Obviously and as presumed by the group, the snow came from the trees in the valley below, blowing its way upalong the peaks. (19)The footprints seen near the tent were on the other hand reported as hollowed. The same is to say about Dubinina, laying close but in a different angle. With temperatures below 50 degrees Celsius at the day of arrival to Vizhay and additionally on the day after having left the area, we were fortunate. You are right I think the hardest thing to accept is the fact that they left without proper dressing outer shell and proper shoes. I do recall there was scattered clothes outside the tent and maybe they tried to grab their clothes and they blew out of their hands? 1959 and on the day 60 years later. Your experience and theory makes better sense than any I have read thus far. Any such theory is more irrationalthan the incident itself. . As aflight instructor since 1986, hehas been intensively involved in meteorology since the start. Possibly it was thecourageousDoroshenko himself, as the tallest member in the group,that climbed the tree. It is not impossible that the seeminglyenergetic struggle up the slopeby the last survivors, wasa last chanceattemptto fetcheqipment fordigging out their friends. Ulcers and multiple bleedings in the stomach as a result of severe hypothermia are quite normal. I think that the Auspiya valley is so important for the overall understanding of the efforts leading up to the event. To the far right the grave of Z. Kolmogorova decorated with flowers. Puttingon our ski-boots inthe pass, during-40 C,took aboutthree to four minutes inacontrolled situation. Far from it. Initially, during the daytime, the Anaris skiing tripincluded only six persons. Buthopefully the ideas canprovide a general outline of aperhapsrather commonsensicalevent. Even if the pathologist in the Dyatlov case only mentioneda red substance, we can presumethat it in fact was blood as a result of hypothermia. These are comparable to so called, Dyatlov pass and the forest. I would also like to take this opportunity to praiseSvetlana Oss for several exciting conversations, advises and wise words along the way. In the case of the Dyatlov group the only survivable scenario would be to run out, conceal the tent and to wait out the ordeal elsewhere, later to regain the buried equipment. The weather then unexpectedly changed to the worse and an enjoyable skiing tour rapidly turned into an tormented state of survival. In all there were now nine persons with four wind sacks andsleeping bags, fighting for survival. I wish I could approach the case scientifically like any archaeological study. Thank you so much Lars, for your comment and interesting link. If a "snow slab" affected the tent, the non-wounded would likely have hadtime to retrieve essential equipment for the long escape route or if returning to the tent. In the end - exhausted and looking for a last solution, perhaps theytried toclimbthe cedarwith frozen limbs,trying to get a glimpse of the tent with its glowing flashlight. 18). 18). Since they didnt use sleeping bags, we can just speculate in why the last members of the group tried to reach back to the tent. Not to do so is false science because we are only trying to explain with only what we know and to do so would make us go round and round in circles all the time . SVT Nyheter (video och text) - Arkeologen: Drfr dog de i den mytomspunna expeditionen (film & text), 30 januari, 2021. They were likewise eager to experience parts of the Auspiya route and camping at the specific places of the Dyatlov group, such as the slope of Kholat Syakhl. But if we assume that the bivouac with the four lastly found of the group, had not collapsed (which I propose), then perhaps they would have made it during the night in order to retrieve their buried equipment in a less forceful weather. Hey, Richard. Photo: Richard Holmgren. By the 5th of May, suchbedding would have vanished from its position, floatingdownstream. Thank you dear friend! In Antarctica, by contrast, the wind is still intensely cold. Extremely high winds would furthermore make it hard to stand upright. Eventually,apathy usually kicks in. Photos: Dyatlov Foundation / Richard Holmgren. Well, thank you Nemo for both celebrating the effort to ski there but also to raise pertinent questions. It is necessary but with all the contradictions, such a paper would rather be an investigation of the investigation. According to Vladimir Askinadzi, present at the scene,Zolotaryov reportedly even had a pen and a paper in his hands which gives the impression of being rather in control. Vox Media - "Two theories for an unsolved Soviet mystery", (intervju med Richard Holmgren om katabatiska vind-teorin samt med Johan Gaume och Alexander M. Puzrin om snflaksteorin),5 April 2021. This wind theory of yours cannot be correct, as it does not account for all of the injuries, of a severe nature, to the skiiers. Gnter Wolf explains the basis for katabatic winds in the, (Extra material from theSwedish documentary -. I felt this was lacking and at the time of writing the theory I felt this was a new approach. This had a potential to turn dangerous sincethe air interacting with the highlands was cooled thus becoming denser than the air at the same elevation but away from the slope. Bedtime Stories (YouTube Channel). 17) A scattered search team seen below clear patterns of heavily wind swept snow in the direction of the abandoned tent. Yes indeed, the skis were found sticking up in the snow and this have also been an indication that it couldnt have been an avalanche or a snow slide. 18). Likely not without life changing damages though. Webkatabatic wind, also called downslope wind, or gravity wind, wind that blows down a slope because of gravity. Many thanks for your comment and input! Nu tror schweiziska forskare att de har kommit p en frklaring" (kommentar till nya teorin),29januari 2021. By comparing the eventswith a case from my home country Sweden, I think that a new approach with interesting details of comparisoncould be very illuminating. In some places prints are preserved and in some cases gone with the wind. Only some vodka. e know for a fact, from the series of last photos taken by the Dyatlov group, that their weather conditions worsened. Myself,working as an archaeologist and with the background already explained,I naturallycame to approachthe case through matters that were familiar to me. And of course -a sincereapologyto all offended yetis still lurking around in the forests of Ural. In Sweden the tragedy which killed eight people,is often referred to as the Anarisolyckan, which in Swedish can be translated to the accident at Anaris. Dear Martin. The situation is as absurd as for the famous ship Mary Celeste ( Do Mary Celeste + Alain Valade . Secondly,the reason we went to the region during a week in early 2019 -the transition between January and February,was a kind of homage to the events of 1959 and the 60-yearanniversary of the groups passing. Only one of them survived - this after being found far away from a temporary and insufficient snow shelter made by the core group. Yes, the Dyatlov pass incident is different, but not entirely. Thank you so much Richard. Another example is "the Barber", an enhanced katabatic wind that blows over the town of Greymouth in New Zealand when there is a southeast flow over the South Island. A storm would give you time to dress and secure or dismantle a tent properly. This suggests, therefore, that the frequency distribution of the wind speeds during the lull periods in the summer months possesses a distinct character of its own, with an average wind-speed of approximately 5 knots (9.25 km/hr). On the photograph showing them mounting the tent for the last time, windsareobviously present onthe slopes of Kholat Syakhl, creating snow covered clothing and poor visibility. I think that all this could have been performed within around 90 minutes and with constant movements it is survivable. Photo: Richard Holmgren. In the comments to the youttube bedtime stories outline of the theory, some viewers have asked why the groups members hadn't put on their clothing. Actually and as an ironical coincidence, the Anaris accident likewise involved nine persons, two young women and seven menof which one survived. The new theory to the causes of the accident at the Dyatlovpass in 1959, put forward below, assumes that the reader is already acquainted with the story at large,the events in the pass, its various theories, group compositionand other details. (18)When touching upon the footprints left in the snow, there are reports of prints mentioned by the first rescuers arriving to the abandoned tent. Ill do my best - have lenience. Really nice of you to post them here. In the case of Dubinina, it is likely connectedto her position over a stone shelf and with Sashatakingmost of the weight in his central position of the shelter - and/or theground characteristicsunder his body. The katabatic winds are stronger in the Ross Sea sector of Antarctica (Parish & Cassano, 2003) and even though they may play a role in modulating the climatological This makes the most sense out of everything I have read. Condivido la vostra teoria, molto pi convincente di tante sciocchezze strampalate che sono nate attorno alla disavventura di quei poveri ragazzi, che meritano rispetto e un ricordo dignitoso. I don't understand how the 9 could have done so much during the really cold, really fast winds such as build a fire, dig snow holes (deep, big ones at that!). This specific wind is alsoknown asafall wind,adownslope windor agravity wind. Good to hear that it makes sense. In experiencing the same preconditions, we hoped to get a sober idea of what the group went throughbefore their last night. In Sweden the tragedy which killed eight people,is often referred to as the Anarisolyckan, which in Swedish can be translated to the accident at Anaris. We should remember though that she had Krivonischenkos trousers wrapped around her feet. I guess it was because they has no time, their fingers were numb because they already had gotten cold, and very likely their clothes were frozen, so no way to put them on quickly. This happenedto be a missunderstandingand not in line with ourtheory. We simulate katabatic winds for different combinations of slope height and steepness. The explanation for this lies in the fact that a criminal case should have the dates of the first and last documents filed in that very case-file. Buthopefully the ideas canprovide a general outline of aperhapsrather commonsensicalevent. Katabatic winds are slope winds that occur over ice sheets and glaciers, and which arise due to the radiative cooling of the surface, which forms a layer of dense, cold air that flows down the ice slope under its own weight ( Davolio and Buzzi 2002 ). We packed downour tent the 2nd of February 2019 during the 60 years anniversary of the Dyatlov event, but later learned from EMERCOM (Ministry of Emergency Situations in Russia) that during the upcoming eveningthe temperature fell from our minus 43 degrees Celsius down to near minus 50. Through the Auspiya valley, southeast of the pass, we were in total four persons me, Andreas Liljegren and our experienced Russian colleagues, Ekaterina Zimina and Artem Domogirov from Yekaterinburg. However, the interpretation ofa "snow slab" being decisive for the groups demise, I consider secondary. Nu tror schweiziska forskare att de har kommit p en frklaring" (kommentar till nya teorin),29januari 2021. Running out in their socks or in their, ith the extremely low temperatures at hand, the Dyatlov groupsocks wouldnt immediately turn wet as long as they moved quickly down to the forest to seek atemporary shelter. To the right Andreas Liljegren is seen standing outside our tent, near the position of the 1959 campsite. To the right our own tent with its stove in action, here seen halfway into the Auspiya valley, somewhere afore the groups Jan 30 camp in 1959. Thanks for you question! Certain zippers also malfunctioned and the soft but strong G-1000 cloth in our jackets and trousers (the classic Swedish brand of Fjllrven) simply turned into crispbread. This was however not mentioned in the autopsy report. The reason for many being rather well dressed, compared to common misconceptions that they didnt, is that they camped/slept well dressed. Discover Magazine - "The Dyatlov Pass Incident: Can Science Explain What Happened to the Hikers? As well acknowledged, the combination of extremely cold environments and sweaty clothes, can be devastating in keeping the body warm and fit. 19) The Village of Vizhay. During the summer of2018, me and my friend and expedition partner Andreas Liljegren, started to plan for our Dyatlov Pass Expedition 2019. Rix FM med Martina Thun - "Mysteriet vid Djatlovpasset", 18 mars 2021. .and go on the site VOILE ET MOTEUR for comments ) . It is based on our skiing to and stay on the pass in 2019 - and thetheory presented below. Photo: Richard Holmgren, hat happens next on the slope could perhaps be described as a rumbling noise of a wind rapidly escalating from above (northwest). The explanation for this lies in the fact that a criminal case should have the dates of the first and last documents filed in that very case-file. Excuse me but I don`t see DISCLAIMER on Dyatlov pass.com anymore . And, the prerequisite for a gravity wind is possible due to the topography. I feel like this theory can be ruled Theyre wrong. SR P3/P4 Vaken med Robert Frank Andreas och Richard vernattade i mystiska Djatlovpasset (intervju med Andreas & Richard efter Dyatlovexpeditionen 2019)10 februari 2019, kl. 12 above). The conclusions presented here can obviously be broaden much further. 17-19. 14.20 (12)What happens next on the slope could perhaps be described as a rumbling noise of a wind rapidly escalating from above (northwest). nter Wolf is an accredited physicist from Germany. The actual pattern demonstrates heavily wind swept snow, where vortexes have hollowed out scoop-shaped cavities. But by this time their feet and hands were probably gone forever. By the 5th of May, suchbedding would have vanished from its position, floatingdownstream. The group of two women and seven men were then overtaken by wind speeds up to at least 20 m/s an explosive scenario that erupted out of a rather calm and pleasant skiing tour. is also used. (1)Almost twenty years after the accident in the Dyatlov pass, an interesting parallel occurred in north-central Sweden. Other regions may have a similar but lesser effect, leading to "blue ice" areas where the snow is removed and the surface ice sublimates, but is replenished by glacier flow from upstream. It is furthermore often stated that Lyudmila had blood inher stomachand that this would suggest that she was alive when her tongue was injured - or perhaps evenremoved by any ill-meaning force. Remaining on the slope in the swift wind with extreme subzero temperatures was no option - the only way to stay alive was away from the slope. WebHere, we describe oceanic observations during multiple katabatic wind events during May 2017 in the Terra Nova Bay and Ross Sea polynyas. Of course the local and indigenous people - the, 1) The characteristic tilting trees along the Lozva river drew attention already in early depictions from the 19th century. Gnter Wolf, a German physicist have provided our hypothesis with much valuable information and calculations based on the pass. -based on our expeditionand new theory 2019. . 8) The snow covered mountains of Anaris in Sweden. similar landscape to the mountains south of Otorten can for example be found in Sweden, in the rolling terrain of Anaris. I agree with your findings.may God bless them lost souls. Richard Holmgren, February 22,2019 The Dyatlov Pass Incident -Return to Dead Mountain (Part 3), (2 June 2019). Since the density of air is inversely proportional to temperature, the air will flow downwards, warming approximately adiabatically as it descends. One of theseUPI-students, Yuri Koptelov, reported footprints as if people were positioned shoulder to shoulder. Many details are still today being discovered. The following outline onthe theory of theDyatlov passincident is rather pragmatic and will probably disappoint those seeking a cryptic mystery or advanced military plots. This is all well explained and appears quite convincing. The last joining persons that requestedshelter together with the other six, repeatedly tried to fix the constantly failing uppermost part of the bivouac, this from the outside - but they had to give up. The rescuers arriving to the scene, described the place as the worst they had ever encountered. See Vox Media's presentation ofthe two different and recentweather/orographic related scenarios- based on the theories byJohanGaume, Alexander Puzrinand Richard Holmgren. A Swedish wind record is for example 81 m/s which was documented on December 20, 1992 at theTarfalaresearch station. True Niklas, adding the paper of the 15th of February, could create a stronger case. . When it comes to different models that allow us to understand the cultural construction of a mystery - especially in relation to the Dyatlov pass, I can warmly recommend Dmitry Kurakin and his article "The cultural mechanics of mystery: structures of emotional attraction in competing interpretations of the Dyatlov pass tragedy. Even if the pathologist in the Dyatlov case only mentioneda red substance, we can presumethat it in fact was blood as a result of hypothermia. Since the katabatic winds are descending, they tend to have a low relative humidity, which desiccates the region. And the eventin the Ural Mountainscan in my view perhaps be understood quite rationally. You have a lot of interesting angles to complement the understanding of the case. What I'm trying to say here,is not that Ias an archaeologist, believe that Noah's ark lies on top of Mt Ararat - but that we with insight in later and local cultures, yes - even those that are two to three thousand years old can understand whystories involvingSodom, Aaron and Noa were important for the human intellect and became part of the narrative. Trying to say the searchers therefore caused injuries, you cannot otherwise account for, is also reaching very hard for ancillary reasons. The stove provided good warmth during the nights but mainly to a level of not making equipment and food to freeze. Myth is like an air mattress. You are right and I will immediately correct this. In a brief period of time suchtemperatures can be deadly, let alone the windthat in itselfwould make it hard to stand upright. Because whatever happened that fearful night over 60 years ago,it is likewise not immune to subsequent storytelling and our timeless need for legends and myths. In the podcast it is incorrectlystatedthat the first three to die were Slobodin, Dyatlov and Kolmogorova. (10)Thus, my theory to the groups death is based on the sudden event of akatabatic wind. Firstly, we wanted to come as close as possible to the historical event by experiencing night camps during the same days of the year as the group in question thisin a tent with a stove, including at least one night on the slope of Kholat Syakhl. This was also noticed by the group in 1959. emergency? For the Swedish reading audience,a summary of the Dyatlov pass incident and the planning of our tripcan be foundhere. Witha body temperature of around 30 degrees Celsius, most becomeunconscious. Your position of strenght from now on will make you sleep well while they have a nightmare . Where these winds are concentrated into restricted areas in the coastal valleys, the winds blow well over hurricane force,[2] reaching around 300km/h (190mph). M.Becker interviewsG. Wolf(in English). 18). But perhaps most relevant is the postmortem process that a modern forensic medical studymay interpret differently from that ofVozrozhdenny's examinationin 1959 - see for exampleVladimir Nagaev's study from 2017/18(. Igor Dyatlov would have been well acquainted with this, since he spent time in the area the previous year. Your theory is the most reasonable that I have read. The same can be expected from traces of radioactivity in selected clothes, associated to earlier commitment in the industry by members in the group. Moncrieff, (author of mystery & suspense novels) - Modern Dyatlov Pass survivors tell their story, (27 February 2019) 13) The last view of the Dyatlov group alive. Good that the outline made sense for you. Itcan be seen until January 28, 2022 (narrator's voice in Swedish only). YogiBlair! ThusI believe that NOserious or life-threatening injuries should be connected to any event inside or around the tent. Leaving the tent's deeply ski-anchored gableswas a good solution as it kept the canvas in place without creating too much of asail. Antarctic surface winds display a high degree of persistence with mean directions related to the local topographic configuration of the ice sheet, consistent with katabatic forcing. Possible traces of radioactivity in some clothing, may be explained byfor example Krivonishenkosearlier commitmentin the 1957Kyshtymdisaster. Thus, this lead toan uneasyfeeling whencrawling out of the sleeping bag,having to put certaincold clothes on before themorning routines. Regarding the wounds and the splitting up of the group - you can take part of my preliminary thoughts on that above - mostly in the text sections between figs. Hi! Photo: Richard Holmgren. If one can talk of any advantage regarding a rolling gravity wind, is that it is powerful but rather stable without gusts. The tent was also pitched with the gable against the gradient and the wind. An illustratived example of thesurprise effect of a katabatic wind, can for example be seen in aclip from Kluane National Park in Canada. The last joining persons that requestedshelter together with the other six, repeatedly tried to fix the constantly failing uppermost part of the bivouac, this from the outside - but they had to give up. A horrible experience indeed. In archaeology, I have dealtwith several excavations where the understanding of a certain mythwasinescapable. If the lower elevations are comparatively much warmer - the stronger the wind. I have been intrigued with this case for years and decided to revisit recently. It cant be both. (9)We know for a fact, from the series of last photos taken by the Dyatlov group, that their weather conditions worsened. (8)In other words, the conditions described in the groups last entries had the prerequisites for the buildup of akatabaticwind with devastating effects. In a photograph from 1959, Slobodin can be seen posing with a burntjacket. hat is important to realize regarding falling winds, is that theyappear quickly as opposed to a storm. Moncrieff, (author of mystery & suspense novels) - Modern Dyatlov Pass survivors tell their story, (27 February 2019). (16)With the extremely low temperatures at hand, the Dyatlov groupsocks wouldnt immediately turn wet as long as they moved quickly down to the forest to seek atemporary shelter. According to estimates in 1959, the temperature that the Dyatlov group experienced in the late afternoon and in the evening on the first of February, was between minus 25 and 30 degrees Celsius. Non davvero facile fare tutto che hanno fatto nella foresta prima che il freddo diventasse travolgente. Many people have asked us, predominantly in popular media, how the night on the pass underwent and ifwe were scared. Any such wind as described above, would completely take anyoneoff guard,suchin the case of Anaris with its subsequentconsequences. (21)Studying the body positions of Kolevatov, Zolotaryov and Thibeaux-Brignolle, it seems as if they were lying snugly behind each other to keep warm. -on the Swedish Television (SVT-Play). WebThe term katabatic (sometimes spelled catabatic) comes from the Greek katabasis, meaning descending and is the name used to refer to a drainage wind where high-density air flows downhill and into a plain, plateau or body of water. Presumably thewind was already significantbut rather stable during the late afternoon and early evening. In fact, sometimes the ice was so thin due to the underlying movement of the water, that it was a danger to use the open river for skiing. One of the photos far below (no. The buildup of high density cold air over the ice sheets and the elevation of the ice sheets brings into play enormous gravitational energy. In any case your points are important and should be weighed in. /Richard. I know they thought they might die in the tent, but surely they would die without their clothes. WebAntarctica jprecipitation sublimation jkatabatic wind P recipitation in Antarctica falls almost exclusively as snowfall (1). We shallreturn to thislater on. Eventually,apathy usually kicks in. Last but not least, I have to bow my head for you Teodora Hadjiyska - for your tireless work running the best website available on the Dyatlov case. As for the snow dens, in my opinion the deepest one containing the four of the group, was dug out from inside the ravine towards the higher slope in the west. Sometimes batteries can produce extra juice after lying unused especially on a sunlit slope. I repeat my supposition did on 3-26-2019 . We believed that this would ease the weight from the skis and thus prevent us from sinking too deep into the snow - which fortunatelyalso becamethe case. Please give input, oppose or enrich the theory above. She is the second person having unexplainable and crushing chest wounds. Kudos to a great production team for presenting our effort in this thrilling manner - not the least for being cartoonized, which really felt awarding.

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